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Flying Scotsman Wannabe

Joined: 31 Jan 2017 Posts: 8 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:57 am Post subject: Fuel system change advice |
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Hi ,
Have just got a EJ20 naturally aspirated engine to put into my beach buggy and need a few pointers on how people have gone about upgrading on the fuel side of things.
Is there a beetle tank out there that's got all the parts necessary. ie swell pot etc. Or is everything mounted externally.
Many thanks
Jim. |
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Kai Jedi Guardian


Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 1226 Location: Village life.... Enter the Vale
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jim, congratulations.
Easiest thing to do, which people will say is not the correct way to do it as they didn't do that when they built a Formulae one car or the space shuttle is too...... gravity feed your tank via the 6or8mm line into a swirl pot which feeds your HP fuel pump. You can stick a fuel return into the swirl pot.
You can change the fuel system to be returnless also meaning you wouldn't need a fuel return line, no idea how it's done though haha
If your into drive hard into the corners with low amounts of fuel or just generally like a twat you may experience fuel starvation. So decide if that's the style for and if you want a fuel swirl pot or not.
You want to gravity feed the system or else your going to enter into the world of additional lift pumps and go to a place nobody wants to be.
My type 3 has an internal swirl pot. 12mm gravity feed directly into a Bosch 044 fuel pump up to the injector rail, has a 8mm return that enters into the bottom of the tank outside of the swirl pot. It's simples. _________________ Think......
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Flying Scotsman Wannabe

Joined: 31 Jan 2017 Posts: 8 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| Kai wrote: | Hi Jim, congratulations.
Easiest thing to do, which people will say is not the correct way to do it as they didn't do that when they built a Formulae one car or the space shuttle is too...... gravity feed your tank via the 6or8mm line into a swirl pot which feeds your HP fuel pump. You can stick a fuel return into the swirl pot.
You can change the fuel system to be returnless also meaning you wouldn't need a fuel return line, no idea how it's done though haha
If your into drive hard into the corners with low amounts of fuel or just generally like a twat you may experience fuel starvation. So decide if that's the style for and if you want a fuel swirl pot or not.
You want to gravity feed the system or else your going to enter into the world of additional lift pumps and go to a place nobody wants to be.
My type 3 has an internal swirl pot. 12mm gravity feed directly into a Bosch 044 fuel pump up to the injector rail, has a 8mm return that enters into the bottom of the tank outside of the swirl pot. It's simples. |
Sounds good but with my tank being so low at the front I've got very little room and I'm only about an inch above the centre tunnel where the fuel line comes out.
The tank has a central feed from the bottom so it's essentially gravity fed to a point but you mention that you have an internal swirl pot ,is this a mod you've done yourself or is your tank built with it in.
My main problem is space and the lack of it so finding the best compact system that's going to be relatively easy to install and service is a major consideration. |
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Kai Jedi Guardian


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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:41 am Post subject: |
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My type 3 tank is a fuel injection tank so has come with the swirl pot from the Factory. Nothing to stop you modifying your tank to accept one. My first tank I used had the swirl pot welded into the bottom as I bought a LHD tank in error.
Nothing to stop you making a swirl pot that's say 1-2" tall. It's just a means of encasing the fuel pick up and ensureing it's always surrounded with fuel.
Or even weld a swirl pot to the bottom outside of your tank. Think of those deep sumps you get for a type 1 engine. Same principle. _________________ Think......
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Flying Scotsman Wannabe

Joined: 31 Jan 2017 Posts: 8 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your help got plenty of ideas to get on with, it's actually a type 3 engine I'm swapping out, should make the buggy quite lively given it only weighs 540 kilos.
uote="Kai"]My type 3 tank is a fuel injection tank so has come with the swirl pot from the Factory. Nothing to stop you modifying your tank to accept one. My first tank I used had the swirl pot welded into the bottom as I bought a LHD tank in error.
Nothing to stop you making a swirl pot that's say 1-2" tall. It's just a means of encasing the fuel pick up and ensureing it's always surrounded with fuel.
Or even weld a swirl pot to the bottom outside of your tank. Think of those deep sumps you get for a type 1 engine. Same principle.[/quote] |
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