Rad hoses vs. rear beam (late bay)

RatCamper

G'day.

I was reading elsewhere on here and came across the comment about radiator hoses going above the rear beam. How? Seriously. Mine are currently going under the beam and I hate that setup. Primarily because one of them likes to rub on the trailing arm.

My bay has that heavy duty high pressure oil hose for rad hose, and it has a lot of flex without collapsing. Now what I was wondering is when people run it above what do they do? Any clearancing of things, or perhaps some pipe bent to navigate through above the beam and near that diagonal brace.

I just want to find out before I waste a lot if time draining the coolant and trying something impossible.

Bundy · Padawan Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 54 Location: Cheshire

on my 71 bay I've removed the old heater pipes that make an indentation in the rear floor. I plated them from the inside which then gives slightly more room underneath for a pipe to fit between it and the suspension.
Hope that helps!
Cheers
Al

13 window deluxe · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject:

i used mdpe poly pipe 32mm od and it fitted between the floor and rear axle tube without cutting but cutting the the bottom of the old air tube off makes a upward groove in the floor that allows extra room
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RatCamper · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject:

um... okay let's start again. Both these replies rely on something which I didn't realize was a factor. Apologies for that. My bay started life as a panel so there is no rear heat system. To be honest all that has ever really existed of the original heat was the Y tube in the rear crossmember because it seems to have been torn out for the camper conversion in the '70's

Also I should say that my hoses are fairly far out to the sides because of where the radiator connections are.

Looks liek I don't have a good photo. Alright folks. imagination time.

One hose passes through there and the other through the hole on the other side which I guess a heater pipe for some other variant normally goes through.

edit: here's a slightly less embarrassing one:

ElusiveStranger · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 12:01 am Post subject:

Sorry for the late reply....
Pirtek hose over the torsion bar, *slight clearencing required* - slight blow with a hammer...
http://www.rjes.com/html/ej20_late_bay_5.html

Yup, my bus.

But beware, you can get an airlock - once cleared though, it's done

@RJES, please lose my old header tank photo!
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RatCamper · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:02 am Post subject:

Thanks. that was very helpful. i tried an experiment today to see if I could get my hose to fit above the tube on its own. Not a chance. I got a lovely green shower as a reward too. I did dig up a bit of rad hose with a nice bend in it which goes most of the way to connecting it all up but it would need one more bend. Besides I think it was the un-reinforced hot side type. For now I guess I'll just see if it passes inspection.

I did re-shuffle the hose a little so it's not resting on the trailing arm. What do people use as support for the hoses by the way?

jp · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:08 pm Post subject:

ElusiveStranger · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:45 am Post subject:

I can't remember his name, but it was from here - back in the day. Do a search in "For sale" sounds like I'm teaching grandma to suck eggs Wink

But... they're Gates hoses

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The advice you receive on here is worth the paper it's written on.
Your experiences are worth shed loads to others, including the f'ups - live and learn.
Wouldn't YOU rather learn by someone else's mistakes? So would they.

'78 Bay, 2 litre 091 box, EJ20 NA & the ashtray's on the 'right' side.
I don't lean forward for hills any more Grin

Bugger, missed out on "Live fast, die young"

easy-does-it · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject:

It's a shame they dont have an on site shop ( or i know anyone that works there)..... theres a gates factory in town...

Why did i never think of this before

i might have to venture onto facebook..
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RatCamper · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject:

ElusiveStranger · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject:

Where you're describing is exactly where my Pirtek hose is running

Edit, have a close look here (my bus):
http://www.rjes.com/html/ej20_late_bay_8.html
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The advice you receive on here is worth the paper it's written on.
Your experiences are worth shed loads to others, including the f'ups - live and learn.
Wouldn't YOU rather learn by someone else's mistakes? So would they.

'78 Bay, 2 litre 091 box, EJ20 NA & the ashtray's on the 'right' side.
I don't lean forward for hills any more Grin

Bugger, missed out on "Live fast, die young"

RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:51 am Post subject: