Other starter options for T25 Diesel conversion?

Bugsy_malone 666

ok my starter died this morning on the bus along with some other problem, the cable from the motor to the solinoid has burnt through, the guy from the RAC said it didnt sound like it was turning over that fast before it burnt through but it never seems to.

so the Question is what else can I replace it with and how do I do it?

Tdi golf mk3?
VR6? that looks similar to the TDi one
theres an auto one which seems to have less depth to the the gear end

not long till vanfest and a million other things to do, help much appreciated!
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beetleseb · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:19 am Post subject:

you can use one of the tdi starters as the cog and everything line up nicely, its also geardrive so really powerfull.

Go along to a good starter moter rebuild place with yours and take a look at the tdi ones

You'll need to fill and redrill the mounting holes slightly but thats fairly easy. Don't be tempted to take it apart and ali weld it as its a right pain, I used arraldite and its still going fine!

Seb
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Bugsy_malone 666 · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject:

Well there are 2 TDi type starters, the first one I aquired I think is the type you speak of, the second one has a longer nose to it as per 13 window deluxes conversion, the advantage that 13 deluxes conversion is the fact you can use a standard TDi starter with no mods as you use an adaptor plate instead, this way if it ever breaks down then you dont need to alter any new one you get.
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beetleseb · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:47 am Post subject:

I noticed that post after I replied to you

He should set a small batch run as you could use them on any hard to turn conversion or even hi po vw motor

Seb
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andy syncro-nutz · Padawan Joined: 09 Dec 2008 Posts: 72

Do you have a t25 van?
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Bugsy_malone 666 · Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:41 am Post subject:

stephen · Initiate Jedi Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 36

O.k. my modified T25 starter has given up the ghost, so I thought I would join the club and make up an adaptor to use a modern tdi starter.

Can anyone suggest a suitable starter, part number or model of car?

13 windows deluxe and bugsy malone I guess this question is really for you.

Thanks
Stephen

Bugsy_malone 666 · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:05 am Post subject:

According to an Ebay listing I was just looking at you want one of the following part numbers:

Bosch 0001124001
Bosch 0001124002
Bosch 0001125007
Bosch 0001125008
Bosch 0001125012
Bosch 0001125013
Bosch 0001125042
Bosch 0001125043
02A911023J
02A911023R
02A911024
02A911024B
02A911024D
02A911024G
02A911024X
438076
455927
455939
97VW-11000-AA
A188253A
Valeo D7RS130
Valeo D7RS30
R97VW-11000-AA

Apparently its fitted to the following vehicles:

AUDI A2 1.4 TDI 99-03
AUDI A3 1.9 TDI 01-03
AUDI A3 1.9 TDI 96-00
AUDI A3 1.9 TDI 97-00
FORD Galaxy 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 99-00
FORD Galaxy 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-00
FORD Galaxy 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 99-00
FORD Galaxy 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 95-96
FORD Galaxy 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-00
FORD Galaxy 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI AC 95-96
FORD Galaxy 2.0i CC 95-00
FORD Galaxy 2.3i 16V 97-00
SEAT Alhambra 1.9 Diesel T. TDI AC 96-00
SEAT Alhambra 1.9 Diesel T. TDI AC 96
SEAT Alhambra 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97-00
SEAT Alhambra 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-00
SEAT Alhambra 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96
SEAT Arosa 1.4 Diesel Turbo TDI 98-04
SEAT Cordoba 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97-02
SEAT Cordoba 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-02
SEAT Ibiza 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 99-02
SEAT Ibiza 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97-99
SEAT Leon 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 99-02
SEAT Toledo 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 99-02
SEAT Toledo 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 99-04
SEAT Toledo 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 98-02
SEAT Toledo 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 95-98
SEAT Toledo 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI AC 95-98
SEAT COMMERCIAL Cordoba Vario 1.9 Diesel T. TD 99-02
SKODA Fabia 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 99-03
SKODA Octavia 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 00-04
SKODA Octavia 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97-04
SKODA Octavia 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-04
SKODA Octavia 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 4 96-00
VW VOLKSWAGEN Bora 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 01-05
VW VOLKSWAGEN Bora 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 00-05
VW VOLKSWAGEN Bora 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 98-05
VW VOLKSWAGEN Bora 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 4-Mo 00-05
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf III 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf III 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 94-96
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf III 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf III 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf III 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 93-97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf III 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf III 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf IV 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 00-04
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf IV 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97-05
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf IV 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97-04
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf IV 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 4 98-02
VW VOLKSWAGEN Golf IV 1.9 TDI 00-04
VW VOLKSWAGEN Lupo 1.4 Diesel Turbo TDI 98-05
VW VOLKSWAGEN New Beetle 1.9 Diesel Turbo TD 98-04
VW VOLKSWAGEN Passat 1.9 Diesel Turbo 94-97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Passat 1.9 Diesel Turbo AC 94-97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Passat 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Passat 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-97
VW VOLKSWAGEN Passat 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 94-96
VW VOLKSWAGEN Passat 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI AC 94-96
VW VOLKSWAGEN Polo 1.4 Diesel Turbo TDI 99-05
VW VOLKSWAGEN Polo 1.9 Diesel TDI 99-01
VW VOLKSWAGEN Polo 1.9 Diesel TDI AC 97-99
VW VOLKSWAGEN Polo 1.9 Diesel TDI AC 96-00
VW VOLKSWAGEN Polo 1.9 Diesel TDI AC 98-99
VW VOLKSWAGEN Sharan 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-00
VW VOLKSWAGEN Sharan 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-00
VW VOLKSWAGEN Sharan 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 95-96
VW VOLKSWAGEN Sharan 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI AC 96-00
VW VOLKSWAGEN Vento 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-98
VW VOLKSWAGEN Vento 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97-98
VW VOLKSWAGEN Vento 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 93-96
VW VOLKSWAGEN COMMERCIAL Caddy 1.7 Diesel SDI 96-00
VW VOLKSWAGEN COMMERCIAL Caddy 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 97-00
VW VOLKSWAGEN COMMERCIAL Caddy 1.9 Diesel Turbo TDI 96-00

Most importantly is that it looks like this:

There are 2 different types of tdi starter on the mk3 golf/etc and the other type that I know of (that I bought in error!) has a shorter nose.

By using this type with the longer nose (as pictured) and a 12.7mm thick piece of aluminium works a treat, I think theres pictures in my Bay TD build of how my adaptor looked when I was done.

after 2 years and probably 3k+ (I dont use the van everyday as I have a new tdi for a daily Happy

) I havent had any issues.
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stephen · Initiate Jedi Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 36

Hello,
what a comprehensive response!

Cheers for that Dale, I'll get searching for one.

Thanks
Stephen

13 window deluxe · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject:

i might be wrong but the one above looks like a short nose to me? might be wrong it was about 3 years since i did the conversion and did the measurements
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1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,

previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi

stephen · Initiate Jedi Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 36

Hi,
starter looks like the one in your thread 13 windows.

I've got one coming tomorrow so I'll find out soon!

Thanks
Stephen

stephen · Initiate Jedi Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 36

Got my starter today it's a 02A911024X, and is a long nose type.
From my measurements of flange positions, pinion length and throw, I reckon a 10mm flat spacer should work with a 76mm hole. Where did you get your counter sink M12 bolts?

Cheers all the help.
Stephen