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devondubber Force Sensitive

Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 11
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: intercooler question |
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hi, am new to the forum, so i am probably goin to have lots of questions to ask in the near future as i am under goin a full restoration and converstion on my 66 beetle
but at prestent one thing that has got me thinking, is...
is it 100% nessasary to have the intercooler supplyed with air flow
becasue my aim is to keep the rear seats in my bug so i cant have pipes directing air from vents in the rear windows
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jp Darth Admin


Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 1984 Location: Chippenham, Wiltshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to use a Subaru Charge Cooler with a small motor bike rad and fan. This solves the problem of having to force cool air into the intercooler but you do need to find somewhere to mount the icle rad/fan.. a chargecooler could solve your problem and give you a bit more ummph
Not having airflow into the intercooler will ruin the performance.
What engine are you thinking of going for ?
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devondubber Force Sensitive

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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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mm i havent looked to far into engines yet, it will be what ever ej20t lump i can get my hands on thats cheap lol
as for the charge cooler, i dont want to be getting into plumbing all that in really
i spoke to a m8 in wiltshire earlyer who has a legacy turbo power'd oval, this should be running a charge cooler and he hasnt even botherd plumbing it in, he recons the performance you lose is marginal, well...marginal provideing your not doing a long run in it where its gunna get really hot..
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Ianbott Jedi Knight

Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 227 Location: Warrington
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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If your gonna bother going for a turbo moor then IMHO you really do need the intercooler, it is there for a reason.
The turbo is designed to ram more air into the cylinders prior to ignition, however due to the temperature at which a turbo runs any air that flows through it will increase massively in volume therefore putting you back to square one.
cheers Ian. |
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richbaker78 Teacher of Padawans


Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 1298
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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i agree with ian - theres no point at all in runing a turbo engine without an intercooler or chargecooler. Subaru even made a nice cheap chargecooler and in light of all the other modifications you will be doing its hardly a big hassle to plumb it in. If you dont use one or you decide to follow your mates example your just wasting valuable horsepower.
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ricola Jedi Master


Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 415 Location: Warwick
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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heat from the turbo is marginal, the majority of the heat is due to the fast compression of the air, when done rapidly (as a turbo does) this creates a lot of heat which you do need to get rid of... _________________ http://www.ricola.co.uk |
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Ianbott Jedi Knight

Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 227 Location: Warrington
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ricola wrote: | | heat from the turbo is marginal, the majority of the heat is due to the fast compression of the air, when done rapidly (as a turbo does) this creates a lot of heat which you do need to get rid of... |
Agreed with that but a turbo does create a hell of a lot of heat thus the more regular oil changes. |
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