T25 gearbox linkage pics

[easy-does-it]

Hey peeps, ive just got a t25 dk four speed box to go into my bay and was wondering if anyone has any pics of how the linkage looks on the side of the box going forward....

cheers
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'76 bay going superfly TDI

[13 window deluxe]

sorry no photo but if i remember correctly the early 25s have a universal joint just in front of the box, then on the front edge of the box hanging down the is a flat plate with a nylon doughnut style bush in it which the shift rod passes through allowing it to slide back and forward and rotate with inputs from the gear lever. The last part of the shift rod is a egg cup looking cup thingy which slides over the gearbox side lever this is fixed verticaly to the end of the shift rod as the rod rotates it moves the lever on the side of the box in and out and as the shift rod slides back and forth it moves the gear box lever back and fourth hope this helps?
if i was fitting a dk to a bay i would used a cable change lever box from a production car and have a pair of cables made up. the shift would be tighter and you have less chance of noise coming into the cab down the linkage
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1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,

previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi

[B4Tfink]

sorry crap photo...wet elbows and snowblind...
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1988 T25 EJ25 n/a.. it just makes more sense that way..

[easy-does-it]

Cheers guys, it seem to make a bit more sense now

was a bit confused when i saw this




on the cable change front, smartdriver posted this.... http://www.cableshift.com/094/VW%20094.html

although for the money i could have just gone and got a cp box

oh well, these things are sent to test us....
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'76 bay going superfly TDI

[sven]

That's an early sideshift 091-box ("nose sideshift"). Existed in the buses 80-83 (I think it should be 80-82 though) according to the great gearbox write-up: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143138

[easy-does-it]

Cheers for the info sven....very handy
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'76 bay going superfly TDI

[13 window deluxe]

as sven says the b4tfink photo is from a later "mid side shift" i.e. wasserboxer/diesel type van. the dk airccoled box in your photo is "nose shift" type. the dk box is very close to a cp bay box you can see how they evolved over the years as the cases gears diff etc are the same as a 091cp but the nose cone, intermediate housing and shift rails are different. i have read that its possible to swap bits (nose parts) from a faulty cp box into a good dk box to build a cheap box as the price is alot lower for a dk box. you could do your own cable change setup on the cheap just trawl the boneyard for the shifter bits and buy the cables new? wouldnt be any more than £100 would it ?
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1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,

previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi

[easy-does-it]

I really like the idea of cable change, but without seeing how the original set up works i cant get my head around how the linkage setup will need to be fabricated on the box ....
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'76 bay going superfly TDI

[13 window deluxe]

where the original shift arm rubber ball is bin it of drill hole fix inner end of forward backward cable to arm then make bracket to hold outer cable in place using some plate,thats the forward backward cable done shift arm mounting nut remove fit m8 rose joint/ ball joint to a 90 degree bell crank fixed to side of the gearbox this pulls the shift arm in-out when bell crank rotates which is pused and pulled forward and backwards by the side-side cable as simple as that no serious a few bit of plate a small bit of fab work and a few small nylon ball joints or rose joints and the gearbox end is done if you get a shift box and lever from a factory cable change car your 90% there just need to fit your new cables to the shift box
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1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,

previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi

[easy-does-it]

Ok.... It's slowly sinking in and im going to give it a go...

Your a superstar
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'76 bay going superfly TDI

[easy-does-it]

so... new year, new problems ...

Shouldn't i be able to select all four forward gears with the box out of the van? Looking at the pic above i can take the lever from there ,back and it dog legs over. i can push the whole lever in towards the box but it wont find any other gears...is the syncro mesh toast? or am i a fool?
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'76 bay going superfly TDI

[13 window deluxe]